Smoked mullen

topic posted Thu, July 27, 2006 - 2:58 PM by  Unsubscribed
I was recently talking to someone, who was a native american reenactor, he explained to me, that tribes in the north east used to smoke mullen with their tobbacco, for as he said 'to open up the lungs". I was wondering if this had a grain of truth to it
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  • Re: Smoked mullen

    Thu, July 27, 2006 - 3:08 PM
    it is spelled mullein (Verbascum thapsus) and yes it is traditionally smoked to help alleviate lung mucous and bronchial congestion. the yellow flowers are also infused in oil and used as drops in ears for children with frequent ear infections.

    google search & you'll be amazed how much info is out there.
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    Thu, July 27, 2006 - 5:08 PM
    more than a grain of truth, yes.

    it can be very helpful used this way to alleviate bronchial spasms. its counterintuitive to smoke when you have a cough, but a tiny hit of mullein (straight, no tobacco) does wonders with a spasmodic cough.
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      Sun, August 27, 2006 - 11:04 AM
      I have had a pretty deep cough for a few days now and was wondering what I could take to help it that wasn't an over-the-counter sort of thing. I checked out this tribe and loved that this was the very first thread I should see in the list!

      I went this morning to my local natural food store and bought some mullein, brought it home and rolled it in some paper and smoked it. I could feel it doing it's magic in my lungs pretty much right away. Now my cough doesn't seem as deep and I can tell some of the gunk has been broken up. I'll smoke some more later today.

      Thanks to everyone for this very helpful info. Chili...I do want some seeds so thank you for offering that up to us!
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        Sun, August 27, 2006 - 6:15 PM
        the seeds are ripening now so I am starting to harvest & send them out >> thanks for your patience to everyone who already sent me addresses...soon soon sooner!
        • Kim
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          Re: Smoked mullen

          Thu, May 29, 2014 - 3:25 PM
          I would be interested in knowing when to harvest the seeds. I have several beautiful Mullien weeds on the property. Also how do you store fresh leaves/flowers/stems and how long will they last?
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    Thu, July 27, 2006 - 6:45 PM
    I have a good friend who is very allergic to my cats, so whenever she comes over I roll her up some mullein ciggies and she can smoke this and not react to my cats. I don't smoke tobacco and can't comment on how that mix would be, but I like mullein mixed with nettles - very relaxing.
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      Re: Smoked mullen

      Thu, July 27, 2006 - 8:40 PM
      well, at the risk of offending chili's online Etiquette, may I ask you ,how you goabout curing, or preparing the leaves for smoking
      • Re: Smoked mullen

        Thu, July 27, 2006 - 8:54 PM
        ??? I'm hard to offend Dustin
        >> I just offered correct spelling so that the original poster could search on their own too.

        I would dry any medicinal herbs out of the sun, in a dry place with good air circulation. I hang stuff up in my garage. When thoroughly dry, use or store in a glass jar.
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      Sun, July 30, 2006 - 8:49 PM
      cool that is helps with allergies... i didn't know this. thanks, nettle.. and nice you smoke nettles too. i use and consume them every way i possibly can (in teas, baths, dinner), but have never smoked 'em. yum.
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    Sun, July 30, 2006 - 5:09 AM
    Prior to pharmaceutical bronchiodialtors and cortisones, mullein leaf cigarettes could be found in every pharmacy for asthma and bronchitis.
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      Sun, July 30, 2006 - 1:29 PM
      Its surprising with the abundence of this stuff, that it isnt used on a more regular basis.... so this leads me to ask, what is the taste like
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        Sun, July 30, 2006 - 8:47 PM
        i say try it to see for yourself, if you don't have a thing against the act of smoking (it's not addictive).

        i'd say it tastes mild, maybe a little 'green'. i like it mixed with mugwort sometimes for flavor and dreaminess, or pedicularis (sp? aka 'elephant head', i think?, which is an herb i'm only recently getting to know, but i'm told helps relax neck +shoulder area tension), and sometimes ganja, if i want to smoke but not get too high. i don't like tobacco ever, but do appreciate a ritual smoke, and mullein is my herb of choice for that. the others are just accessories...
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          Sun, July 30, 2006 - 11:40 PM
          I always harvest first year leaves. The second year is when it sends up its big seed head, and the energy isnt in the leaves. Thats the time to harvest flowers and roots. This is the traditional method i was taught.
          To me it tastes a little lemony. I always mull it in my hands before i pipe it, cos thats what i was taught to make sure the hairs werent irritating. I wonder if that is where the term 'mull' came from? And yes, it has an opening effect, not a constricting one like some smokes.
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            Thu, August 3, 2006 - 7:15 AM
            Have you ever had a problem identifying the first years.....are their any plants that might look simular to a first year mullein plant that you would reccomend looking out for
            • Re: Smoked mullen

              Mon, April 19, 2010 - 8:21 AM
              >are their any plants that might look similar to a first year mullein plant that you would recommend looking out for <

              in my garden, the new mullein rosettes look awfully similar to foxglove (Digitalis) - not a good thing to mix up.
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    Re: Smoked mullen

    Wed, August 2, 2006 - 12:44 AM
    I use the stuff in a smoking blend that i love. the ingredients are...

    yerba santa
    uva ursi

    and i mix to taste. always seems to make me feel nice and it doesn't clog my lungs ...go figure...if anyone has a good site that explains the effects of smoking all these things in a scientific way please let me know, it's hard to find good info on smoking those kind of herbs :)
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      Wed, August 2, 2006 - 12:54 AM
      by the way if anyone has advice on the best rolling system for making filtered herbal cigarettes please let me know. i have tried many ways and most are slow and difficult to do with big chunky herbs. rolling weed or tobacco is much easier then regular herbs and i'm not sure is cig roller sellers have this in mind.
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        Re: Smoked mullen

        Wed, August 2, 2006 - 2:20 AM
        you should maybe try one of those pot grinders, it might actually help you get a nice even mix with your blend,and that way, it might be fine enough to use a commercial roller
        • Unsu...

          Re: Smoked mullen

          Wed, August 2, 2006 - 9:59 AM
          i tried using a coffee grinder but the trick is that the herbs seem to lose something when grinded to fine and it was hard to maintain a course grind. maybe i'll try the pot grinder, in all of my years when i did smoke pot i never actually tried one of those :)
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            Re: Smoked mullen

            Wed, August 2, 2006 - 2:30 PM
            btw does anyone know of a good herb store/herbalist in the berkeley area? i would love to find someone who had a good stock and knew what effect these herbs have when smoked.
            • Re: Smoked mullen

              Wed, August 2, 2006 - 9:07 PM
              dustin, this may be obvious, but i'm saying it anyway...just in case.

              if you choose to mix the mullein with tobacco, be sure it is natural tobacco, preferably organic, because if you mix chemicalized tobacco with a herb that is opening your lungs, you then allow the chemicals to absorb more readily into your bloodstream.

              i like to smoke mullein with a touch of cloves, a mix of chamomile and other dried flowers, sometimes oregano, whatever i find in the market...of course, i haven't smoked any of it in a while, but you're all reminding me of the things i like to smoke when i do...
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                Wed, August 2, 2006 - 10:27 PM
                i would say screw the tobacco in general, unless you can find what my friends called "wild indian tobacco", that didn't seem so nasty.
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                Sat, August 19, 2006 - 7:10 PM
                I'm curious - not knocking it! - but aren't the volatile oils in cloves ~really~ bad news for your alveoli?

                I had always thought so...and I really loved my djharum blacks. I've quit smoking tobacco ciggs. Is there any way to have cloves without the harm? I know if you're using a tiny amount that's *less* harmful...could someone help me out here?
        • Bob
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          Re: Smoked mullen

          Mon, April 19, 2010 - 8:07 AM
          Just be a little careful when you're grinding mullein. I'm a gardener and love the genus Verbascum (there are 75 species or so). But when you grind the dried leaves (or are separating the seeds from the pods) the fuzz can get into the air and if you breathe it in, you can end up with a really unpleasant tickly cough for a couple days!
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    Fri, September 15, 2006 - 9:11 PM
    smoking coltsfoot is the best also damiana and even a little of rosemary and yes mullein is helpful too
    • Re: Smoked mullein

      Fri, September 22, 2006 - 9:25 AM
      Good stuff! Great for the lungs.
      Also take the flower stalk when dry (the whole thing to the bottom) and dip the head in paraffin wax
      viola! an outdoor torch for your mullein smoking sessions
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        Sat, September 23, 2006 - 7:38 PM
        that's fun to do Scot ~ even without harvesting the stalk on the plant ~ if you pour the parrafin down it and use it where it grew, but on fire! I also like to give the stalks to my neighbor kids as temporary swords for some plant samurai street-fighting and seed-dispersal.

        if anyone else wants some seeds I still have some from this awesome super tall plant...
        let me know your address off-thread
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          Mon, September 25, 2006 - 6:04 PM
          Depending on your skill, mullein stalks can be used to make fire. Get a fire board made and twirl the stalk quickly between your palms putting pressure downwards. Ishi is seen on several photographics making fire this way. It's pretty neat to watch it being done.
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            Re: Smoked mullein

            Mon, September 25, 2006 - 8:00 PM
            I dont know of this is off the topic, but drinking mullien tea is also a wonderful lung healant.

            Tincture in water as well.

            One teaspoon steep to one cup boiled water.

            Its one of my favoriate lung healers, very, very kind.

            If one has a lung condition my teachers always said, treat the ailment first, very little smoking if at all.

            I dont know if this is the same subject area, but good to meet all you folk.
            • Re: Smoked mullein

              Wed, September 24, 2008 - 11:20 AM
              I mon mix it up wid some of JAH JAH Sacrament if I got ah cough, seen. I like it in tea form mixed with yerba mate and I take some Hepher Sulphate Caclcum 30x (homeopathic meds) Bye Bye cough!
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    Re: Smoked mullen

    Wed, September 24, 2008 - 5:25 PM
    and coltsfoot too is great in aiding mullien in the healing process ... damiana is quite relaxing, and also is catnip ...
    i like to add a small amount of white willow bark, for strength, and raspberry leaf for the blood, and for flavor.

    if mixed with tobacco ... this is for medicinal and ceremonial usages ... recreationally speaking it's not the best idea!
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      Thu, September 25, 2008 - 6:50 AM
      I recently had the great oppurtunity to be witness to a private drumming session with one of our elders, who is 87 years old and is the local medicine man. There were 10 of us in total. The language of the old songs, I couldn't understand, but they moved me to tears regardless. The medicine man spoke of how the human race has gone astray, and how we disrespect the land, the very thing we depend on for survival. The energy of the grandfather drum itself is enough to bring tears to my eyes, absolutely beautiful, but I regress, our medicine man, once a year goes into Algonquin Park here, for a whole week on his own to collect medicines, one of those happens to be Mullien. As others have mentioned here, he gives it to those who suffer from lung disorders, dried and mixed with other dried herbs, one of which he mentioned was mint. I have never tried these, so I have no personal opinions. He also mentioned a mullien tea, which can be used daily to cure asthma, again I have no personal experience with this medicine. I just wanted to share a tiny bit of my experience with him, and what he mentioned about mullien, hopefully it will have some use for someone. MoonWater
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        Re: Smoked mullen

        Thu, September 25, 2008 - 11:42 AM
        yes sweet moonwater! i have the tea is wonderfull too... as well as the mint. ... i haven't had any teachings on herbs ... but i notice the addition of mint is calming to the lung tissue... at least with my physiology.
  • Re: Smoked mullen

    Thu, September 25, 2008 - 6:48 AM
    Mullein is also used to open up the lungs when someone has asthma.
    I tried smoking it once. One puff and I immediately started coughing.
    One of the traditional ways to dry the leaves is to roll them and tie a string around them.
    Then you just light the leaf and smoke that.
    I heard quite an amazing story about mullein that someone who had lungs problems and was a smoker began to drink mullein infusion.
    After quite a few days of drinking this, his chest area, right over where his lungs were got very red. The mullein it appears was removing
    stuff, even though his skin. That story was told to me so a bit of a legend but I know so many people that this plant has helped.
    Peace, Julie
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    Sun, November 2, 2008 - 2:21 PM
    Yes,for sure.I have never mixed it with tobbacco,but smoked a mixture of mullen and herba santa for lung problems.this is well known in native american culture.Great medicine!
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    Tue, November 4, 2008 - 5:43 PM
    I have heard that both Mullein and Lobelia do this (in fact one of the names for Lobelia is Indian Tobacco of all things!) ;-)
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      Tue, November 4, 2008 - 8:07 PM
      Mullein, as others have mentioned can be used as a counter irritant. It will irritate the lungs and is best used in my opinion when there is a lot of lung congestion that simply will not move. As a tonic mullein infusions are strengthening to the lungs and I often drink it more often in the fall and early winter as a prophylactic.

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