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could anyone share a list with me? I live in the northeast u.s. (Maine, by Canada)
im looking for natural, free psychedelics/ entheogens / hallucinogens / sacred plants in my area.
thanks,
n
im looking for natural, free psychedelics/ entheogens / hallucinogens / sacred plants in my area.
thanks,
n
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Re: natural psychoactives...?
Mon, December 8, 2008 - 5:37 PManyone? please, i need this.
n
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Tue, December 9, 2008 - 9:03 AMI can't imagine that you could find a plant in your area that isn't sacred. -
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Wed, December 10, 2008 - 9:06 AMhi julie. "Why?"
Because i love psychoactive plants, they are the nectar of Lord Shiva's Mind.
hi jim.
"I can't imagine that you could find a plant in your area that isn't sacred."
I said i was looking for natural, free, PSYCHEDELIC / ENTHEOGENIC / HALLUCINOGENIC / sacred plants in my area, not JUST sacred plants.
Sacred just ain't "sacred" enough for me anymore.
thanks,
n
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Re: natural psychoactives...?
Wed, December 10, 2008 - 10:15 AMForgive me for speaking for everyone here.. But I think the question is are you looking for Lord Shiva's "Mind" (which is sort of a misnomer in itself) or a high?
Many people believe you can access that state without the use of neurotoxins. The psychoactive effect is your brains response trying not to die, essentially. Also, if you ever wish to induce this state on your own without being dependent on anything, using these plants will make it harder for you naturally in the future.
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Wed, December 10, 2008 - 10:25 AMi appreciate both your advice and concern, thank you katrina.
<<<"Also, if you ever wish to induce this state on your own without being dependent on anything, using these plants will make it harder for you naturally in the future.">>>
I don't care for what isn't real, i.e. the past and future.
I care about what I can do in the PRESENT to rest in a higher, more conscious, spiritual state.
<<<"I think the question is are you looking for Lord Shiva's "Mind" (which is sort of a misnomer in itself) or a high?">>>
By Shiva's Mind, i meant No-Mind, Beyond Mind, so ya, i guess it is sort of a misnomer, depending on how you interpret it.
I never look for just a "high", its much much more to me than that, and it always has been.
<<<"Many people believe you can access that state without the use of neurotoxins.">>>
I never said anything about neurotoxins, I'm speaking of natural, non-toxic psychedelic herbs / flowers / seeds.
<<<"The psychoactive effect is your brains response trying not to die, essentially.">>>
The line above is a good example of United States Government propaganda, heresy, and flat-out lies in regards to sacred, psychedelic plants.
I don't believe everything i'm told, or everything i read, or everything i've heard here and there throughout the course of my life.
But i listen to words of wisdom.
thanks for your help and caringness, and for allowing me the chance also to speak.
n
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Re: natural psychoactives...?
Wed, December 10, 2008 - 1:38 PM: ) I'm glad we can both communicate Om. Unfortunately, anything that produces the euphoric / hallucinagenic effect you're looking for really is pretty toxic. I'm not saying that your body can't deal with it and clear it out but I am saying on a chemical, not governmental, basis . . the properties of almost anything psychoactive (i.e. a neurotoxin) is considered a toxin because of the incredible load it places on your liver and various other organs. (including your brain pan : )
Think of all the plants which do not cause any overt mental changes, many of them that are considered safe, like Licorice Root for instance, can really hurt you.
All that aside, I'm not a stranger to using psychoactives but I have only used them in Spiritual Crisis and when I was prepared to. (aside from being a stupid teenager) Never just because I was looking for that state. As it is accesible without plants or anything external. Salvia Divinorum was one I had a profound experience with. I suggest writing while on any mind altering plant substance so you can reflect on the experience with your clear mind and learn what is meant to be learned without needing to revisit it over and over again. This has worked for me profoundly and helps 'seal' the experience. Unfortunately, again, as with many psychoactive plants, the memory and important details of the event fade quickly.
I don't think knockin off a few brain cells is that huge a deal, Lord knows I've ran down quite a few of my own. I think what you're looking for ultimately is a state of mind (or mindlessess) that you can achieve eventually without plants that can make it more difficult for you in the future should you ever choose to want to access this state on your own.
So like I said Salvia is a decent choice, smoked. The high is not long so not debilitating. I suggest being alone when you choose to smoke as any other energy can greatly influence the experience. It's important to create a sacred space that you can meditate in / pray in before and after you smoke. Something that's pure and unassociated with any feeling you have other than calmness. Before I smoked I would line out my intentions as well, no matter what they be (a conduit, a question, a feeling, God, energy, no thing. etc...) Your intentions create your world, they're vitally important to understand.
I hope you find what you're looking for with health, longevity and clarity!
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Thu, December 11, 2008 - 9:20 AMI'm concerned about your suggestion of using Salvia Divinorum without a sitter. There are potential problems with this medicine that vary with dosages and individuals. People have been know to lose complete touch with this reality and not realize they are even walking around a room. This can be very dangerous without having someone site with you while you are in the experience.
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Thu, December 11, 2008 - 10:19 AMHi Brian,
Certainly. I was speaking from my personal experience with the plant but of course every person is different. I hadn't seen anyone who had lost touch with reality BUT thinking about it, it really is something that can happen w/ Salvia since it is specifically a detachment substance.
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Re: natural psychoactives...?
Wed, December 24, 2008 - 6:10 PMDatura was used quite a bit by the North East natives. That is also used by many Sadu. There are a lot of "entheogenic" in the US. Go to Maya ethnobotanicals and look under "United States" in origin or if you are serious then get a list of the tribes that lived/live in your area and specifically research what they used. Tribes around where I live used deer vetch root and all sorts of other lesser known plants.